

"Is Jesus God?"
Summer 2003 Bible Study
Chapter 2
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Good evening
Many among us had quite an interesting, educational and enlightening
experience at the old country church. I was amazed the minute I walked into
the Hall as the chairs were in a perfect circle! Go figure that. Who did
that? You now have that privilege henceforth. We then centered ourselves
for several readings to put us in the mood and were then shocked and stunned
by our first-time facilitator's marvelous job of taking us through chapter
4.
I do not have an electronic copy so I will touch on some of the points
discussed.
The Hebrew people saw God revealed in their freedom from bondage, in their
call to a covenant with God, in the preaching of the prophets (which we also
make a habit of killing), in God's protection and mercy and in God's
punishment of the wicked.
The Christian community continued to understand revelation in this way but
for Christians Jesus was the "word" par excellence: In Jesus God is revealed
in a unique way.
One challenge facing Christians is to rescue the understanding of revelation
from boundaries that are too narrow, boundaries that suggest that God's
revelation was first focused on the Hebrew people and then, through Jesus,
on Christians. In other words, revelation does not come only to Hebrews and
now Christians. (How goofy that we might ever think it would.)
As we shift from the belief of living in exile from God to an understanding
that God's Spirit has always been and is still active in all of creation, we
will inevitably broaden our theology of revelation. (And free ourselves
from tremendously hampering beliefs.)
How easy is this for those of us who have been steeped in the old ways of
thinking about Christianity? Can we break free from this indoctrination?
Should we?
If the Spirit of God works in and through the development of culture, we
world expect to find a development of religious insight as culture develops.
Indeed this is what we do find. Does this not provide us with the challenge
of discerning Scripture being written today? Is Scripture being written
today? Will the bible of 500 years from now be the one we read today?
The belief in one God took a long time to take firm hold in the religious
practice of the Hebrew people. The idea of life after death is another
example. The idea of was virtually unknown for centuries and at the time of
Jesus was a point of debate between the Sadducees and the Pharisees. (what
about the idea of Satan? I believe that idea came much later than even the
book of Job, for example.) What debates do we have going on within
Christianity today? Women teachers? Homosexuals? Priestly celibacy?
Others?
One big problem Morwood finds with modern theology is that our theologians
are put in straight jackets. Theology may speculate how we might better
understand doctrine today but is not permitted to question them. Most of us
have been taught these doctrines and have also been taught not to question
them. This is very much my upbringing and many of yours as well. "The
bible says..." "The Bible means..." And you had best not question the
authority of the bible.
We humans have so much going for us ; yet we act toward each other and
toward the planet as if the Spirit of God were not present and active in all
of creation, including us. I'll leave this comment stand alone for fear I
may start ranting about man's inhumanity to man.
What we need desperately is someone to light the way of human existence for
us, to show us how the Spirit of God may be better expressed in our lives,
how to create a human society that will give witness to God's reign among
us. Who is that someone? Would we know him / her if they were here now?
Are they here now?
Thanks a million Ron!
This was interspersed and followed with much conversation and questioning.
One thing we immediately cleared up is that we are troubled by statements
like that last one in the overview about needing someone to "light the way
for us", without qualifying that. And actually, Morwood does. On Page 67
he says Jesus is that someone for us but doesn't actually tell us to step up
too and live the life. However, our experience includes the knowledge that
those "lights" are here now and have been since Jesus and before. It may
behoove us to stop waiting and start creating.
Hey, wait a minute! It's 8-o-something and you all know what that means.
Treat time! I don't know what is with me lately but once again I was caught
up in thrilling conversation and consequently was one of the last to reach
the gourmet bar. (must be inner ear) When I did round the corner and finally
catch sight of our dessert de-jour, I must have gone into a stupor as I
distinctly recall someone slapping their hands, with tremendous force, in
front of my face...Bruce? I did come to and to my surprise and delight, had
not been hallucinating. We had our pick of Vanilla Bean, Dreamy Creamy
Chocolate, and or, Chunky Banana Fudge ice cream!
Are you kidding me!
By the by, this was not your run-of-the-mill Land-o-lakes or Jolly Green
Giant ice cream. Noooooo siiirrrreeeee. This was Old fashioned homemade
(Bryers) ice cream just like the good old days. And that is only half the
story. The other half is the garnish our old-fashioned ice cream received
with luscious wild-crafted raspberries from Michigan's upper peninsula,
selected and picked by Arlette herself! That is dedication! As if that
wasn't enough, we also had the option of garnishing these Sundae Supremes
with a fancy French or was it Italian, very dense and semi-sweet Almond
roll, and then, hot fudge. Are you getting this?
I've got that Joy Joy Joy Joy
And that is what happens at the old country church on any given Tuesday
evening. Note: We are not responsible for spontaneous outbursts of any
kind.
When things quieted down, we moseyed back to small groups where each group
was to discuss one of the topics from the end of the chapter. Our group was
to discuss:
We will report on one other group. We won't mention any group numbers or
names but they were to discuss;
What scriptural story, event or passage has taken on new meaning or
significance for you because of a better understanding of its background or
formation?
Great question, right? When we checked in at large group they reported that
they discussed ET and the Matrix. "But what about the discussion topic?"
Someone asked. "We never got to it" was the reply. Somehow, this is
liberating.
We closed with a beautiful reading about community that could have been
written for us.
We are grateful.
Next week we will discuss Chapter 5 - The Teaching of Jesus - you will want
to be there early.
Down in my heart
(Where?)
Down in my heart
(Where?)
Down in my heart
I've got that Joy Joy Joy Joy
Down in my heart
(Where?)
Down in my heart today!
Well this was very educating and interesting as 3 of the five in our group
had Catholic schooling and one other had a fairly fundamental upbringing in
another Christian tradition. It was interesting to hear about our various
upbringings and about what times in our lives we really began questioning
the things they were told all those years. The roads we have traveled are
unique and it is an honor to catch glimpses into these faith journeys, and
began to understand in part, how each of us has arrived at this place.
Shanti
Rik Murray
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